Jansen Teng: Inside Virtuals’ Meteoric Rise, Race to Billion-Dollar Crypto-AI Agents, Life after AGI
JAN 10, 2025 • 74 Min

Join Tom Shaughnessy and Pondering Durian as they host Jansen Teng, CEO and co-founder of Virtuals, for an in-depth exploration of AI agents and the future of decentralized AI. From Virtuals’ evolution as a gaming DAO to becoming the leading crypto AI platform, the conversation covers crucial developments in agent autonomy, tokenization, and the path toward an agentic economy.
🎯 Key Highlights
▶ Origins and evolution of Virtuals platform
▶ Analysis of agent frameworks and autonomous capabilities
▶ Discussion of value capture in crypto AI projects
▶ Deep dive into decentralized infrastructure challenges
▶ Vision for agent coordination and business development
▶ Future outlook on AI-human interaction and cybernetics
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Timestamps
00:00 – Introduction and Background
01:29 – Virtuals Origin Story
07:42 – Agent Development Discussion
13:00 – Vision for Agentic Economy
22:51 – Framework Competition Analysis
29:37 – Infrastructure Challenges
36:20 – Agent Value Capture
42:46 – Decentralized AI Stack
54:00 – Team Analysis and Due Diligence
01:00:10 – Future Risks and Opportunities
01:05:44 – Agent Autonomy Vision
01:09:43 – Future of Human-AI Interaction

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